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Tue, Jun 23rd, 2009, 06:01 am
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| SAE paper on Pulse and Glide SAE 2009-01-1322, "Vehicle Inertia Impact on Fuel Consumption of Conventional and Hybrid Electric Vehicles Using Acceleration and Coast Driving Strategy," Jeongwoo Lee and Douglas J. Nelson, April 2009. For $15, anyone can get a copy and it is a fine paper discussing 'Pulse and Glide.' For example, Table 4, Summary of Results of 2004 Toyota Prius: ![]() In May 2007, I also looked at Pulse and Glide with my 2003 Prius and used the following profile: ![]() My test protocol was built around using the Prius cruise control so anyone could replicate the procedure (i.e., "Johnny cab" driving style)
So looking at the field parameters, it turned out to be:
![]() So we can now compare table 4, second and third row, 10 and 20 second acceleration, with my 15 second acceleration results:
I also notice that the largest difference between the paper and my results, 151.5 MPG versus 87.8 MPG, occurred concurrent with the largest change in the State of Charge, 52.0 to 50.5 (row two.) We already know that traction battery energy can substitute for fuel and lead to unusually high MPG. I've had private e-mails with Dr. Nelson but I never brought it up and we never discussed the State of Charge impact. Now i can repeat my NHW11 tests and record state of charge. I would also increase the number of runs, say 35, so we would have a statistically significant set of data. Finally, I would also make sure the milage and speeds were GPS calibrated and adopt a 40-30 PnG speed protocol. I may yet do this but I seriously doubt it would change the results. What may be equally interesting is to replicate the test using a ZVH30, the 2010 Prius. I have one and it is just a question of repeating the test protocol and gathering the data. I'll see what I can get later this evening. There is one other area were . . . Jeongwoo Lee, Douglas J. Nelson and I agree: . . . Lee_Nelson
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. . . There are some known safety issues using the PnG driving strategy on the road; traffic considerations, unstable braking performance, and unstable power steering system if the engine is off, so this driving technique should only be used on a closed course under controlled conditions. . . . Wilson
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. . . I agree that Pulse and Glide needs to be limited to closed tracks or very low traffic roads. The speed differences required for pulse and glide means as the number of vehicles increase, the probability of having to brake and need to maintain larger vehicle safety distances increases. This reduces either the effectiveness of Pulse and Glide or road vehicle capacity. It is a technique best practiced solo. . . . #19 (permalink) Sun, Jun 21st, 2009, 11:10 pm bwilson4web
HybridDriver said: They used a four-wheel, dynamometer from Argonne National Laboratory:. . . In the article by Jeongwoo Lee and Douglas J. Nelson how many miles did they test PnG for? ![]()
HybridDriver said: I'm a little worried about using a dynamometer for an acceleration test. You are dependent upon the dynamometer replicating the inertial mass. This is possible but I would have preferred seeing the results replicated in the field.. . . If you, me, they, do a test for a long enough number of miles ( 50 to 100 miles ) then the battery SOC becomes insignificant, dare I say, irrelevant. The pack SOC will either go up-down-up-down or, reach a low point, and maintain there. Regardless, it will reach stasis after some number of miles.
HybridDriver said: My data shows closer to an 11% improvement at the maximum 43-25 speed range. Sad to say, when I tried to wrap the optimum speed 18-20 mph, it looks like PnG was worse. . . .In my own tests, I can get 10% higher FE with PnG vs. steady speed driving. But, as you know, conditions have to be right for it. And the work involved, is sometimes not worth an extra 10%. But it's fun to experiment. Bob Wilson |
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Wed, Jun 24th, 2009, 01:16 am
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| Hi, I ran a preliminary test with our ZVW30 (2010 Prius) this evening at 1:30 AM on a circular route near work. Again, using cruise control at 77F:
This route has two turns that require slowing down to 23 mph. My regular test route has no turns. So I still need to repeat these tests on a better route. However, this preliminary data doesn't look so good. Bob Wilson |
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