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Thu, Apr 23rd, 2009, 10:02 am
 
Also look up ''syngas" or syntehetic gas. You basically vaporize trash with high heat and no oxygen. You can then burn the gas as energy or compress and liquify the gas for transport.
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Sat, Jun 20th, 2009, 06:46 pm
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Does ethanol raise food prices? Lets check this out. If a bushel of shelled corn comes in at 56lbs and a bushel of corn cost $4.10, what is the cost of corn per pound? Yikes! Only 7 cents a pound! Your one pound box of Corn Flakes has all 7 cents of corn in it! This 1lb box of Corn Flakes can make how many bowels of cereal? Eight?-Ten? Hmm, it seem as if that bowel of cereal for breakfast has 1 cent of corn in it. This data indicates the faster than expected rise in food prices can not be related just to ethanol.
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Sun, Jun 21st, 2009, 03:01 am
 
billyk said:
Does ethanol raise food prices? Lets check this out. If a bushel of shelled corn comes in at 56lbs and a bushel of corn cost $4.10, what is the cost of corn per pound? Yikes! Only 7 cents a pound! Your one pound box of Corn Flakes has all 7 cents of corn in it! This 1lb box of Corn Flakes can make how many bowels of cereal? Eight?-Ten? Hmm, it seem as if that bowel of cereal for breakfast has 1 cent of corn in it. This data indicates the faster than expected rise in food prices can not be related just to ethanol.
I think a stronger argument can be made that food prices follow to cost of energy. Our mechanized agriculture requires oil for farm equipment, fertilizer and pesticides. So I don't really see ethanol as anything but transformation of solar energy into another liquid fuel.

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